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My usage limit?", "endTime": 1194.223, "startTime": 1192.023 }, { "body": "Is it that I have other tasks,", "endTime": 1195.983, "startTime": 1194.223 }, { "body": "that I have here in my head, and", "endTime": 1198.143, "startTime": 1195.983 }, { "body": "I need to save up...", "endTime": 1199.653, "startTime": 1198.143 }, { "body": "tokens for those tasks.", "endTime": 1201.974, "startTime": 1200.654 }, { "body": "If I do this the complicated way", "endTime": 1204.034, "startTime": 1201.974 }, { "body": "I'll run out of tokens.", "endTime": 1205.214, "startTime": 1204.034 }, { "body": "There are many variables AI", "endTime": 1207.274, "startTime": 1205.214 }, { "body": "doesn't have, and even if it", "endTime": 1208.874, "startTime": 1207.274 }, { "body": "did,", "endTime": 1209.604, "startTime": 1208.874 }, { "body": "since AI was trained on human", "endTime": 1211.426, "startTime": 1209.646 }, { "body": "context, I", "endTime": 1212.606, "startTime": 1211.426 }, { "body": "feel like AI is really", "endTime": 1214.266, "startTime": 1212.646 }, { "body": "shameless, and look, I'm not", "endTime": 1216.226, "startTime": 1214.266 }, { "body": "judging it,", "endTime": 1217.316, "startTime": 1216.226 }, { "body": "whether that's right or wrong.", "endTime": 1219.28, "startTime": 1217.73 }, { "body": "For me it's not that right, but", "endTime": 1221.2, "startTime": 1219.28 }, { "body": "for someone else it won't", "endTime": 1222.64, "startTime": 1221.2 }, { "body": "matter. 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So, how do we do this?", "endTime": 1347.244, "startTime": 1345.654 }, { "body": "That's for next episode.", "endTime": 1348.767, "startTime": 1347.307 } ], "version": "1.0.0" }